Or, At least these Jurors aren't morons
Unlike the jury who decided that the gun company was liable for the tragic death of a teacher while absolving the actual shooter, the jury in the Carr brother capitol murder case seems to have gotten it right. They recommend the death penalty, let's hope the Judge grants them their wish.
What sentiment did Jonathan Carr's attorney want the jury to consider?
"They convicted him of doing a bad thing, a horrible thing -- but I like him," Evans said. "That is what I told the jury. It is the truth."
This kind of thing makes me nauseous. Grandstanding like this trying to save scum like Jonathan Carr. This attorney would never even LOOK at Carr if he wasn't his client. Wouldn't ask him over for dinner, or go to a sporting event with him, or let him date his teenage daughter. So to stand in front of a courtroom that contains the families of 4 brutally murdered people (only murdered, however, after being sexually humiliated and repeatedly raped by these "nice" guys) and talk about how he did a "bad" thing, but heck he's really a likeable guy is just sick. Oh, and doing something "bad" is like when the puppy pees on the carpet, and you have to scold and say "bad dog". "Bad" is not murdering 4 people in such a depraved and cruel way. And your choice of words"a bad thing, a horrible thing..but" were carefully chosen to try and minimize what your client did, and to solicit a little sympathy for him.
Reginald Carr's attorney also wanted a little sympathy and understanding for his client:
Jay Greeno, the attorney for Reginald Carr, said his client was the product of an abusive household, and he urged jurors to think about the effect an execution would have on Carr's three young children.
Too bad, so sad. But I am sick and tired of this mentality of victimizing the perpetrators of horrible crimes. Guess what, jerk. Those 4 people will never get to even HAVE kids, thanks to your client. And their last hours were filled with terror, hopelessness, and brutality that should not be visited on any individual. Then they were lined up, kneeling in the snow, naked and bleeding and raped, and executed. Should we feel sorry for the kids? I suppose we should. But maybe now they will have a chance to grow up as something other than the image of their father. And feeling sorry for the kids is NOT reason enough to spare the life of such a monster.
Have I missed the mark here? Is there some redeeming quality in these guys (either the Carr borthers or their attorneys) that I am missing? And don't give me that "the attorneys are just doing their job" bullshit. Their "job" is to represent their clients in the face of the evidence, not use cheap tricks to try and get a sucker juror to deadlock the jury. And attorneys wonder why their profession is held in such disdain by the American public.
Posted by nukevet at November 15, 2002 12:10 PMBravo!
*applause*!
You know, reading about the Carr brothers (may they spend the remainder of their lives in misery and fear) made me realize that there is actually something to be said in favor of stays of execution!
But only if there's at least a couple of dozen of 'em, at random intervals, and they're all last minute stays... Oh, and provided that the sentence is carried out in the end, of course.
Posted by: Emperor Misha I on November 15, 2002 02:18 PMOooooh, I like that. It would be good for these guys to feel some of the same abject terror their victim's must have felt. Before they finally shuffle off this mortal coil.
Posted by: Neal on November 15, 2002 02:49 PMI currently have no set thought on rather the death penality is good or not. I heard some guy talking about it after 9/11 and he said "It's God job to punish them, and our job is to arrange the meeting" (or something close to that)
Posted by: Blaine Hilton on November 15, 2002 03:10 PMI believe in the death penalty, but recognize that there are some practical problems with its implementation. Certainly there can be little doubt that innocent people have been put to death.
But these guys are just so vile, I can't even beging to find sympathy for them.
Posted by: Neal on November 15, 2002 03:40 PMMy main problem with the Death Penalty is the "mistake" factor where falsly accused are executed. But when you know you have the right person (as in the Carr brother's case), I'm OK with it. EXCEPT it's not MEAN ENOUGH. I think there should be another level of punishment beyond the death penalty for REALLY EVIL people who are properly found guilty (as in the Carr brother's case). This NEXT LEVEL would involve torture (in all of it's many forms) for the remainder of the guilty's life (and proper medical care would ensure a long life). Too bad this would cost so much....I think it'd be more of a deterent than the death penalty. But I recognize that neither are a deterent for the likes of the Carrs.
Posted by: junk on November 22, 2002 11:29 AMUnfortanely this case is not about black and white. Although those monsters should rot in jail. One was dating and married to a white women. Excuse me, the KKK may rape black women, but they don't marry or date them. Sorry try another case.
Again, I think that the men are soulless, but I'm sick of people trying to play the race card where it doesn't exist (both blacks and whites!!!!!!). This was a case of greed, lust and hatred against human life...period.
PS. I agree that the case should have received more coverage, but this society is more concerned about Michael Jackson quirky ways and whether Winonya Ryder shoplifted.
Posted by: Shannon on November 22, 2002 06:33 PMThe Carr brothers are senseless and evil murderers!!!! Getting the death penalty is the easy way out. Not only should they spend the rest of their natural lives in solitary, but they should have to endure some of the torture and anguish they dished out to their victims. Good luck Reggie and Jon Boy. Hope life on the inside is horrible!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Rocky on May 10, 2003 10:45 PMThese fucking niggers need to die, and die soon. This case just goes to show that you can take the nigger out of the jungle, but .... Anybody who belives that these jungle bunnies deserve anything less than a quick and brutal death needs to have a love one close to them raped and murder and I pray that it happens to everybody who opposes the death penalty. Watch how quickly their stance on the matter turns around.
Posted by: Iggy on May 27, 2003 01:16 AM