You can tell a lot about someone when they get in trouble in one simple way. Who accuses them, and who defends them. The BBC stands accused of blatant propagandizing against the war, and the west in general. That's a pretty serious charge against a government funded entity. The accusers are in this corner, the Blair government, and the Royal Army. For the defense, we have a freelancer writing for the pro-Arab Gulf News.
So should we hang em now, or just beat em with a stick some more first?
Posted by Mark Edwards at July 01, 2003 01:47 AM | TrackBackReading you conservatives makes me so horney!
Posted by: Nukevet's Love Slave on July 1, 2003 03:09 AMThat's odd... I am certain I read some poll results that Blair was supported by a fairly comfortable majority in the UK.
Posted by: Mollbot on July 1, 2003 03:15 AMWhoops:
Two out of three dont trust Blair, where did you read those kid-on poll numbers?
Posted by: harmonia on July 1, 2003 03:48 AMWell then I stand corrected, harm. Seems the UK has fewer sensible people than I thought. I suppose the poll I saw was a couple months ago... where does the time go?
Posted by: Mollbot on July 1, 2003 04:19 AMBack to the point, the Scotsman details at least one instance where they directly contradict the BBC on it's accuracy. Even other members of the UK media have problems with the BBC's acuracy.
You do not find that troubling? Our do they match your politics enough that you give them a free ride"
For all the whining you've done over FOX, I should think you would at least make an attempt at appearing to be consistent.
Posted by: puggs on July 1, 2003 05:02 AMOne other thing, if your position is to defend the BBC, you make the point of my post for me.
Damned by your being on their side.
Posted by: puggs on July 1, 2003 05:11 AMMy what a clever argument Puggs
BTW I do hope George Bush wins the election!
Posted by: harmonia on July 1, 2003 05:33 AMHeh.
harmonia has a funny post, what is the world coming to?
Yeah, it's a funny comeback, but it doesn't really answer (or negate) Pugg's point. If a communist America hater is coming to the defense of the BBC, that would seem to speak volumes about the ideological slant of said "news" organization. The BBC is no different than the Guardian or the Independent from an ideology standpoint. BUT, it is a state supported institution with a mandatory fee for every household in the UK (something like $1500/year).
At least here in the US you can choose not to support PBS if it isn't to your liking. In the UK you have to support the BBC AND listen to their left leaning horseshit.
Posted by: Nukevet on July 1, 2003 07:45 AMMollbot,
Blair did enjoy a peak in popularity a couple of months ago, but it was short lived. I'd say there is a good chance his time at number 10 Downing street is limited.
Posted by: Nukevet on July 1, 2003 07:47 AMSHE'S BACK!! Our widdle baby has come home!! We all missed you so very much my dear Ms. Harmonia. Misha not providing you with the attention you need over at the Rottweiler? Well, you know that you can always come here to be admired, don't you? Without you around it was almost like, well..... rational and sane. But now that you've returned we shall rejoice! Now, go forth - and troll like you've never trolled before!!!
Posted by: Mike the Marine on July 1, 2003 07:49 AMOh, yeah, and I notice that in Harm's cute little comeback, she completely ignores the major point of Pugg's post, dealing with the inaccuracy of the BBC. Back to business as usual, eh Harm? I might have to get the trollinator out sooner than I thought if this keeps up.
Posted by: Nukevet on July 1, 2003 07:49 AMAs someone who actually saw the BBC documentary concerned I think I can safely ignore your comments. They had film of the British letting people out of Basra than claiming the Iraqi militia were firing on them, pretty conclusive stuff, no wonder the army is screaming blue murder.
The vast majority of people here trust the BBC far more than Blair, as the poll above demonstrates.
BTW We pay �100 to the BBC, not $1000!
Posted by: harmonia on July 1, 2003 09:03 AMI see your censorship programme is back.
Nice to know that even my simple arguments are scaring you so much.
Keep it up though and it's bye bye again, leaving you all here to play with each other!
Posted by: harmonia on July 1, 2003 09:04 AMThe Scotsman clearly stated that they confirm the British Armies version, in effect the BBC lied. They didn't have footage of the attack, so they simply say it didn't happen. Really? Is that how it works?
If a young buck drags you into an alley and bends you over to take you for an unwilling test drive, and the BBC has no film that means it didn't happen and you'd be a liar. That's your arguement.........You really don't think on your own at all do you?
You loved the propaganda, that's nice. It also shows why we don't believe the BBC.
Posted by: puggs on July 1, 2003 09:46 AMHappen to know the Scotsman's politics do you?
Thought not, very right-wing pro-war paper that hates the BBC, not a very good source.
It's editor is a man called Andrew Neil, who spookily enough is a very close associate of Rupert Murdoch. Starting to see a motive yet?
It is still arguing that the WMD's will be found, which in itself is rather funny
Posted by: harmonia on July 1, 2003 10:08 AMLord Tebbit.
https://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=420272
Posted by: harmonia on July 1, 2003 10:11 AMOh OK I see now, the BBC is to be believed because it puts YOUR point of view across. Their journalists are beyond reproach, EVERYONE one else is lying...........
You really don't see how truely absurd that statement you just made was do you. They went on the record with facts and sources that can be checked. The Beeb cranks out opinion and distortion pieces as "documentaries" and you just soak them up because they play to your prejudice.
Do you know what a lemming is?
Posted by: puggs on July 1, 2003 10:23 AMLord Tebbit, Thatchers biggest ally in the 1980's?
His view one of mine?
But still, trust Andrew Neil, why not?
(although it may be worth seeing the coverage befoer commenting on it)
Posted by: harmonia on July 1, 2003 10:49 AMYou still haven't answered shit.
Posted by: puggs on July 2, 2003 01:15 AM