And here's hoping he stays there. Or moves to France.

Long Comment warning (the email I sent this retard)

Colin:
Where were your Communist and Fundamentalist Muslim led friends when Saddam was filling mass graves? Having women and girls raped because their husbands and fathers were 'criminals' who were not loyal enough? Why weren't they out try to tell Saddam to stop embezzling money that was supposed to buy kids food, instead of his gold toilets? Where these protesters when he gassed the Kurds, or machinegunned Shi'ites? Why did they not hold up signs saying 'stop putting people in plastic shredders'?

And why could an unplanned rally to support fox hunting attract 400,000 people, while your rally, with 6 WEEKS planning, barely got 70,000? I thought that fox hunting was unpopular in England, and Bush reviled as a 'warmonger'?

You and dictator-loving friends are not against the deaths of Iraqis, just aginst the deaths of Iraqis when it makes them free, and the world safer. Of course you demonstrated beside Communists, whose ideology has the blood of more than 100 MILLION people on its hands, and Fundamentalist Muslims, who would kill you for speaking out and rape your female friends and relations, to protest 'bloodshed' by America, so logic and reason are clearly not your strong suits. Maybe your group should invite some Vanguard members, or other white supremacists and Neo-Nazis. Then you could have the trifecta of 'bloodiest hands of the 20th Century' at your rally for 'peace'.

Stay in England you pro-Saddamite moron. I do not want any US soldiers dying to protect your life or freedoms. You are undeserving of such sacrifices. You are either a fool, or a traitor, and America cannot afford either in this day and age.

I am not expecting any response from him, what do you guys think?

I doubt a response either, but it would be nice.

I would expect it to be full of "well I've studied this" and "I've got a degree in this" just like that other twit we had last week. I love those folks. Never been out of a class room or off a campus their whole lives, never had a full time job or had 1/3 of their paycheck removed in the form of taxes, but they sure know how the world works.

Plus, the doc has so many letters after his name, he can stomp on their nuts from across the Atlantic.

You think a response would be nice? OK, no problem.

First, let me say that I agree with some of what you have said. Saddam was a cruel dictator, and I'm glad to see that he was removed. I'm even more glad that his sons are out of the way - they were sick, sick men.

But why did we attack Saddam, when there are many other examples of human rights violations in the world that we have left alone? Africa is in particularly bad shape, but we don't hear much about it. My guess is because Iraq has oil, and Africa does not.

I also don't approve of the reconstruction of Iraq. It's just a little to coincidental that all of Bush's friends and political donators get all the contracts. Also, I don't understand why private US corporations get to rebuild the transportation infrastructure and profit from it. Should not that money go back to the Iraqi people?

The US also used cluster bombs and depleated uranium shells while attacking the Iraqis. Cluster bombing is very much like placing landmines across the country - they will be dangerous to the citizens we are trying to protect for many years. The uranium will cause cancer and birth defects to the people we save. These are weapons the US didn't have to use.

I also don't like that more US troops have died since Bush declared an end to the war than died in the war. Some of that symbolic blood on my hands was their blood. They fought and die to stop 'Weapons of mass destruction', none of which have been found.

The second poster is also correct. I have been in school all my life, and have little direct experience with the real world - but I'm getting that now. I'm trying to keep an open mind and learn what I can. Who knows, after I talk to enough people, perhaps my thoughts on the matter will change.

You need not worry, I plan on staying in England for now.

Colin,

Nice of you to reply, and to actually make an attempt at civil discourse rather than the hollow bits of nastiness we come to expect from anti-war protestors here at RNS (see how it's done, Harmonia?). I agree with some of what you say, and disagree with a lot more. The bits I primarily disagree with concern a lot of the "propaganda" type statments you make - such as Bush's friends making all of the money from reconstruction. That was actually debunked pretty convincingly, although I don't have the link here. As far as who should "pay" for reconstructing Iraq - shouldn't the companies that pay for it at least recoup their losses? The US has led the way in asking for debt forgiveness for Iraq - something most countries in the EU and eastern Europe have NOT been willing to do.

I agree that Africa gets treated differently than the middle east, probably because of the oil. But, Bush has done more for Africa than the left's darling Clinton ever did. And I seem to remember that it was the EU that didn't fund the AIDS initiative for Africa, not the US under Bush's leadership.

The WMD and "Bush lied" memes are also very old and tired, just as the statement that Bush declared the war "over" is factually incorrect. He declared an end to major hostilities - but never said the war was over. In fact, we recognize that the war has just begun, and that terrorism is a huge global threat. You are unwilling to concede that the major effect of removing Saddam from power - freedom for Iraqis and a chance at democracy, far outweighs the presence of WMD's (or the lack thereof). And while we are on the subject - is it your contention that Saddam didn't have any of these devices? Or that he had them, disarmed according to UN sanctions, and then subjected his people to 12 years of difficulty just so he wouldn't lose face. I agree with you that the lack of WMD's is disconcerting - not because I take it to mean that they never existed, we know better. My worry is: where are they NOW? Who has them, and what do they plan to do with them. There are some credible intel reports describing their relocation to Syria - does that make you feel any better/safer?

Finally - while I agree that cluster bombs are terrible weapons, they beat the alternatives in many cases. They can cause massive destruction to non-hardened targets (ie people) in a short amount of time, with minimal "big explosion" type of damage. The fact that not all of the clusters always detonate is certainly an issue - but the same holds true for ANY conventional artillary shell.

The depleted Uranium issue is also highly suspect. There have been no documented ill effects from the use of depleted uranium - short of getting hit with one of the rounds travelling at a high rate of speed. The cancer/genetic mutations claims are made with the same hysterical tones in the face of a complete lack of evidence that is usually reserved for global warming alarmists.

So tell me, did you support the actions of CLinton while he was in office?

Finally - it's great that you have a cause you feel passionately about. And, as someone more quotable than I once said: If you're not a socialist as a young man, you have no soul. If you're not a capitalist as an adult, then you have no mind". Don't forget to use your mind to evaluate both sides of an issue before you make a decision. Just regurgitating what all of the cool "anti-Americanistas" say without subjecting to to critical thought does you no service.

My thanks for stopping by Mr. Palmer.

Trying to be as concise as possible, while there were many other human rights offenses being committed around the world, Iraq was also directly supporting terrorism. This has been proven. And they were warned.

In the Kay report, it was also proven that he was at the very least, attempting to manufacture WMD, and we are still looking around to see if he was successful.

These things made him a danger to his region and the world. His proven ties to OBL made him a danger to all the western countries including the US. I am supportive of Bush/Cheney because I would rather not see a mushroom cloud over or biohazard tape surrounding one of America's cities before we start fighting the good fight.

The one thing that the people who are against the war keep forgetting is that Iraq signed a treaty at the end of the first Iraq war. They broke the terms of this treat at least 17 times and we are only enforcing the terms of that treaty.

It has been proven that the major countries who were against the invasion were directly profiting from Saddam's Iraq. Therein lies their reasoning for denying the OK through the UN.

Myself, and more than a few of our readers here at RNS, see your actions in Trafalgar Square as ignorant at the very least. You need to look past the folks who would still say bad things about our country even if we were able to bring about world peace overnight. There is just no pleasing the socialists who planned the demonstration there.

And make no mistake, those folks are the worst kind of socialist. They hate America's freedom (which you have enjoyed to the fullest), it's wealth, and it's opportunites.

They hate those three things with such a passion that they would much rather tell you that we are the biggest threat to world peace then admit that we work hard and are happy about it.

I would suggest asking the socialists some very tough questions before you give them any more of your time.

You have a chance to learn so much in the position you occupy. Do not waste it by letting them also warp your mind with their hate.

Thanks.

Colin can you cite any sources about the 'DEPLETED' uranium the Americans use causing birth defects? You know why it is called 'depleted' right? The more radioactive atoms of uranium are almost completely removed. the stuff emits less radiation than bananas by weight. So if we wanted to cause birth defects, we should drop tons of bananas instead, which are cheaper and more plentiful.

Bush DID NOT SAY THE WAR WAS OVER. He said 'major combat had ended'. have you heard of any battles involving Iraqi armor, artillery, or hundreds of Fedayeen or Republican Guards? I check the news from iraq several times a day and I ahve not heard of any such battles. Please read the transcripts of his speech, or see a tape. Anti-War groups, like the Communists from ANSWER, are not sources that can be trusted to quote the President accurately.

As for the 'Bush's friends and political donators get all the contracts' in Iraq for reconstruction, can you cite a source for that claim also, please.

As for why Saddam and not somebody else, can you name any African 'governments' that have used chemical weapons on their citizens, funded terrorist groups, and killed hundreds of thousands of their own people? Can you name any African Governments with attaches, whose job was to negotiate with Bin Laden?

Lastly, how would YOU have gotten rid of Saddam, without using force, if you were President? Demonstrations? Banners? Red dye in fountains? I ask because you say that are glad Saddam is gone, but not with how he left. How else would he have left?

Colin
When you crawl into bed at night just say a quick prayer of thanks for the soldier in the sand-dusted cot in the desert who guarantees your freedom of speech. Later in your life you will likely escape the university environment and might develop freedom of thought too. You'll be amazed.

Thanks for the link, AK. (Whining) - but the direct link above to my story is broken, should be: https://www.mudvillegazette.com/archives/000401.html