You know this jerkoff is the extreme fringe. There's others out there, too, and I've learned to accept the fact that some idiot is going to give them a microphone. Then some rube reporter is going to get "their story" printed. I try to not let it get to me. Otherwise, I'd go crazy.

holy hell puggs.
anyway, I read today the pentagon wants to cut soldiers' pay in iraq.
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/08/14/MN94780.DTL

i know it's sfgate, but i've read it elsewhere as well.

I do believe a good amount of this is protecting certain corporate interests,(not all, just some) nothing to do with illuminati or ufos, i think that's a bit of a stretch on your part. I understand your anger, but wish you'd be more rational in your arguement other than mere insults, we all know you are better than that.

Hehe Puggsly, that almost made my eyes bleed.

Everyone gets to blow off steam every once in a while.............

I was indeed having a very bad night and as Nukevet said I was blowing off steam. I can argue fact's in a calm and reasoned way, what really makes me angry, makes me nuts is the oppurtunistic piggy backing of the fringe veterans group on what was supposed to be a call by concerned veterans families.

I don't share their politics no, but I understand their need to express grief and fear. I supported the right of veterans families to speak out against Clinton after Somalia, these people have the same rights. Their right to say what they think is secure with me. But what should have been a dialog between families and veterans is turned into a dog and pony show.

If the fathers and mothers who spoke out against Clinton had brought along some rightwing fringe groups to give them a platform and step all over the issue at hand, I would have been just as angry.

Time and place are important to me. It wasn't the right place.